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Beon Theory, the cosmogony behind this particular forum section.

Paul Richard Martin wrote:Greylorn,

After pondering our discussions and making some changes, I think we agree that,

1. Conscious experience occurs outside the brain: we identify and name the experiencer of consciousness as beon.

2. There is a physical brain/beon communication link of some sort. This link might resemble something familiar like the RF link between your cellphone and the person talking on the other end, or it may be completely different in kind, depending on some completely unknown physics involving higher-dimensional space. Whatever the case, the link is physical.

3. The origin of the universe (i.e. all of reality) was ultimately simple: no almighty God, no information-packed Big Bang, and no consciousness.

4. In the beginning there were just two simple things: Undifferentiated dark energy at absolute zero, and an as-yet-unspecified second component we call aeon.

5. Some sort of initial interaction between aeon and Dark Energy began all the dynamism of reality.  After immense stretches of time, this dynamism eventually resulted in the appearance of consciousness in early beons. The eventual results of the A/DE interaction allowed beons to discover consciousness for and by themselves.  

6. Currently, there is a huge number of beons and they exist in some sort of hierarchical relationship, organized maybe historically or by some power or capability scale. Whatever hierarchy might exist, beons are dreadfully confused. The "capability" scale may need to be scaled down from its earlier state.  

7. Beons were the intelligent designers (and engineers and fabricators) of the laws of physics which operate in the parts of the physical world to which our scientists and their apparatuses have access. That physical world includes the galaxies, carbon based life on earth, and anything else that humans can observe. It does not include, however, any inaccessible part of the physical world or the three principles of thermodynamics. The inaccessible parts might operate under completely different laws of physics designed by other beons. But the three principles of thermodynamics are absolutely fundamental.  Beon cannot change them, but can freely violate the second principle, wherein lies beon's power.  

Note: I have been persuaded to abandon my previously skeptical view of the importance of the "laws" of thermodynamics by both your arguments and a statement attributed to A. Einstein.

You said, "These three principles are time-independent.  Other physics laws are, in a sense, both time-dependent and arbitrary.  Except that their arbitrariness is brilliantly interconnected and integrated."

That seems profound and correct to me. As I see it, we have a lot of work to do to understand the enigma of time before we can make any more sense of cosmogony. (Leo's ideas about time seem to offer some important insight in this respect.) Your observation will help with that understanding.

Albert Einstein said, ”[Thermodynamics] is the only theory of universal content that, within the framework of applicability of its basic concepts, I am convinced, will never be overthrown." – quoted by Prof. Jeffrey C. Grossman, The Teaching Co. course: "Four Laws that Move the Universe".

Who am I to argue or quibble with those arguments?

Now, if you agree with this list of agreements, we can move on to our disagreements. At this point, I see our points of disagreement as the following:

1. Whether beons are connected to non-human animal brains.

I think so. I suspect that there is a range of capability/power among beons: some are capable only of steering the actions of a flatworm, and some are capable of giving some humans the illusion of gaining a modicum of insight into what is going on.

2. Whether all beons are conscious or instead are in the same relationship with their superiors in the hierarchy as human minds are to beons.

I suspect the latter. I think that there is a range of beon capability ranging from the extremely dull and stupid all the way to the brilliance required to engineer a galaxy. Of course these are all spread over vast expanses of time and for all I know, all the brilliant beons may be dead by now.

3. The geometry of Dark Energy and Aeon prior to the initial interaction.

I suspect that only one or two dimensions existed at that time and that extra dimensions were constructed later. Neither of us has a clear enough idea about this question to disagree but I don't think we see eye-to-eye on it. I think we need to expand the scope of our thinking to include such topics as dimensions, manifolds, and topology. I am eagerly looking forward to convincing you of the importance of those issues. I'll begin making my case when we get this far in resolving our agreements/disagreements. I'm looking forward to more discussions.

Paul

Paul,
Thank you for the excellent summary.  I'm going to propose a small correction to Agreement #1, "Conscious experience occurs outside the brain."  I've no excuse for not catching this earlier.  It would be more precise, I think, to say that conscious experience occurs independently of the brain.  We don't know anything about beon's relationship to normal space, the space occupied by matter, e/m radiation, and presumably dark energy.  Independent e/m waves can simultaneously share the same space without interference.  I think that beon should, and probably does share space with the human brain.  This physical space sharing may prove to be necessary to the maintenance of the brain/beon interface.

By way of analogy, put a frozen dinner in your microwave oven and fire it up.  Several things will go on simultaneously within the oven.  
1.  A little motor using electromagnetic energy will spin a glass platter and the dinner tray, i.e. mechanical motion.
2.  A light will turn on to illuminate the process, filling the oven cavity with light (e/m radiation), some of which escapes so the cook can watch.
3.  The cavity fills with invisible microwaves (different frequencies of e/m) that force water molecules in the dinner to vibrate rapidly, producing heat energy.

Some of these energy forms interact within the oven, but they do so in a controlled and intended manner.

I would not be surprised if the large-scale structure of the brain is related to the brain/beon interface, or even essential to the mechanism.  (Analogy: radar/microwave circuits use copper tubes rectangular in cross-section to conduct energy, rather than wires as in radio circuitry.)  

Are you willing to add this change to Agreement 1?
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Your expression of Agreement #5 is especially eloquent!  

There's plenty of room for expansion within #6 (e.g: multiple hierarchies with different agendas), but we should not explore such subjects.  Beon Theory will catch on sometime after I'm dead, and will then be experimentally verified.  This will drive nails in the coffins of various religious schemes.  Given the propensities of many people to believe unverifiable things for which they must take some guru's word, religionists will find a way to attach irrelevant beliefs to the structure of Beon Theory, like barnacles on the hull of a ship.  Item #6 can be their personal hull section, a kind of bulletin board for unverifiable and possibly irrelevant opinions.  
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I appreciate your change of mind on Item #7, and am delighted to learn of Big Al's opinion.  I will henceforth refer to these as "Principles" of Thermodynamics, to distinguish them from possibly arbitrary and structure-dependent laws of physics.  
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It seems like we can get to work on our disagreements.  I propose to start with #2, which is fundamental to my ideas about the purpose behind universe creation.  Before we do so, are you happy with its current wording?  It seems a bit ambiguous to me.  

Re: Disagreement item #3.  You've convinced me long ago that concepts such as manifolds and spaces are relevant to this item.  Your recent discussion with J.A.B. elsewhere in this diverse forum now has forced me to consider topology.  My problem is ignorance, not disagreement.  I simply do not understand this shit at your level!  

I'm wondering if you might engage Jonathan in pursuing these kinds of subjects, perhaps in the future.  He has a fine knack for the construction of mathematics-based images that have already proven helpful.  Until then, perhaps you would honor me with some tutoring, next personal conversation.

Best regards,
Greylorn
by greylorn
on Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:56 pm
 
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